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Carol the Coach will be interviewing President Barb Steffens as she steps down from APSATS. Barbara Steffens was the recepienct of the Carnes Award in 2018 for poutstanding contributions in the field. She will be talking about the vision that APSATS continues to hold as the premier Partner Sensitive Training Program in the world. APSATS trains clinicans and coaches internationally to provide services to partners who have been impacted by loving/living with someone with sexual addiction. During the interview, we will talk about the history of APSATS, the Multidimentsonal Partner Trauma Model and the advances that have been made in the field as well as the hopes and vision for the future of APSATS.