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In this episode of Crazy Faith Talk, pastors Sarah, Erica, and Steve talk through some of what makes the subject of suicide and self-harm so especially difficult to deal with. Because of the content of this episode, you might want to choose the right time and place to listen. And if you or someone you love is dealing with thoughts of self-harm or suicide, please reach out to the new national hotline for suicide prevention, 988. In addition to al of that, this conversation tries to unpack some of the contradictory emotions that are often opened up when someone dies from suicide or attempts suicide, and we also explore more in depth some of the ways that previous centuries of institutional Christianity has made it harder, not easier, to deal with this subject, and how we need to recover the promises of the Scriptures that nothing--not even death--can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus. Or as the late Robert Farrar Capon would put it, when any of us dies, we may lose our own ability to hold onto our own lives, but we do not lose Jesus' ability to hold onto our lives. With that kind of hope, we invite you into this conversation.