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Pastor Andrew and Helen lead Webster Avenue C&MA Church in the Hill District, but are involved in many other community activities and events. Pastor Jack, as Andrew is affectionately known, and Sister Helen, make a wonderful ministry team and they are the perfect couple to lead The Marriage Works – for the Better Ministry. They also co-aithored the book The Modern Couple. Today, Helen serves as the executive director of the Center for Urban Biblical Ministry that in partnership with Geneva College offers degree programs for non-traditional students, mostly adults from the urban community who decide to pursue education later in life. Helen joins John today to talk about ministry, pandemic, education, and living a bold life for the Lord.