Mike Safo with Abbott Kahler and Erik Larson

Joined today by TWO New York Times best-selling authors, Erik Larson and Abbott Kahler. Abbott and Erik share their story on how they met 20 years ago, what shocked them to learn about each other, and why they have stayed friends for such a long period of time. Abbott talks about why she changed her name at 40, if she is worried that her name change will affect her book sales, and why changing her first name to Abbott might actually help her non-fiction writing. We chat about Abboot working as a beat reporter in Philly, doing ride alongs, and the cattiness that are Philly sport fans. Abbott chats about her new upcoming podcast, the process with doing it and when it's dropping. We talk about her hit book "The Ghosts of Eden Park", why and when she became fascinated with George Remus, what he meant to prohibition, if he's the greatest bootlegger of all time, and the murder and the trial of the century. Erik and Abbott share about putting their boots to the ground and doing old fashion detective work when they research their books, why court transcripts are the greatest treasure to writing a non-fiction book, & why they travel to the locations they write about. We discuss the pressure of following up your New York Times best-selling books and how that relates to your next book, if they read reviews and how they interact with their fans. Abbott let’s us know about her newest project "Then Came The Devil" about sex, murder, and utopia on the Galapagos Islands. Erik talks about what's going on with Hulu, Keanu Reeves, and if the "Devil in the White City" is coming to TV any time soon.  A few hot toddy's, a couple of Manhattans and we hear about weird first jobs, people getting fired, and the cleaning up of some disgusting things. From interviewing a young Kobe Bryant to having James Carville call your hotel room, all this plus much more

https://abbottkahler.com/  https://eriklarsonbooks.com/