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TTIN 5: NASA, The Occult and The Jesuits In the classic, "The Phaedrus" written by Plato, which is a dialogue between Plato's protagonist, Socrates. Another participant in several of the dialogues named Phaedrus is quoted by Plato as saying: “Things are not always what they seem; the first appearance deceives many; the intelligence of a few perceives what has been carefully hidden.” Join The Time of Now roundtable group as we dive into more of the occult roots of NASA and then move into the Jesuit involvement in astronomy, Copernicus and the Big Bang and much more...as Phaedrus said, “Things are not always what they seem.”!