The Leader of a "Gay Conversion"Therapy Program Comes Out as Gay. Surprised?

Earlier this week, Yahoo news reported that McKrae Game, the man who founded one of the largest conversion therapy programs in the country and led the homophobic organization for 20 years, has come out as gay. That program, originally was called Truth Ministry is "faith-based " and located in South Carolina. It aims to suppress or completely change a person’s LGBTQ+ sexuality through counseling, interventions, or ministry. The organization was eventually rebranded and renamed as Hope for Wholeness in 2013.

Our guests are two people who know Game, and have been tightly involved with the ex-gay movement for years. We are joined by Yvette Cantu Schneider, who was involved in the so-called ex-gay movement for two decades. She was a policy analyst and spokesperson for Family Research Council, and, later, was the first and only director of women’s ministry for Exodus International. She is the author of the book Never Not Broken: a journey of unbridled transformation, and the soon-to-be-released novel Two Black Stones. 

We are also pleased to feature good friend Kathy Baldock, an ordained minster and the Executive Director of Renobased Canyon Walker Connections. Kathy has now read and reviewed 47 anti-LGBTQ books by Christian authors. She has seen the expectation and goals patterns shift as the conservatives try to control LGBTQ people. The authors also create ideology and present it as theology which is then adopted by many of the churches and people within the Christian Right.

Brody Levesque guest hosts.